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I'm certainly not about to post it over there.<BR/><BR/>I'm a sadistic top. I'm also a repeated, failed suicide.<BR/><BR/>I can't even begin to describe how reading that comment made me feel.hexyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12189529529520498603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-76707097796062623452009-02-10T05:12:00.000-08:002009-02-10T05:12:00.000-08:00Sort of like the whole "girls don't perspire; we G...<I>Sort of like the whole "girls don't perspire; we GLISTEN" and "proper ladies' farts smell like pink powder puffs!" except the daintiness moves to rejection of assuming/according power.</I><BR/><BR/>genius, you.antiprincesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06675693687192822141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-19987387189493781312009-02-09T22:33:00.000-08:002009-02-09T22:33:00.000-08:00T,Well if you want to read an angry, but intellige...T,<BR/><BR/>Well if you want to read an angry, but intelligent, rant from yours truly, feel free to meander over to Metas blog. I posted it there a few minutes ago. <BR/><BR/>Some of them have absolutely no excuse for acting how they are. Its like rights are just a weird, sick, club that they feel only the privileged get to join and fight for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-47271494495384644012009-02-09T21:49:00.000-08:002009-02-09T21:49:00.000-08:00...and holding your ground in a calm way usually. ......and holding your ground in a calm way usually. Perhaps an angry way, but a way that makes you look more intelligent.<BR/><BR/>There are very real hierarchies in "feminist space." It's just a cultural tradition to pretend they're not there.<BR/><BR/>Sort of like the whole "girls don't perspire; we GLISTEN" and "proper ladies' farts smell like pink powder puffs!" except the daintiness moves to rejection of assuming/according power.<BR/><BR/>It can BE there, but no one can ADMIT to it. That's why D/sers drive them battybattybats... because we keep pointing at the woman behind the curtain.Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06846032433424879965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-67381900326274367072009-02-09T21:45:00.000-08:002009-02-09T21:45:00.000-08:00Nik,Yeah, online feminists tend to get like that. ...Nik,<BR/><BR/>Yeah, online feminists tend to get like that. There's a whole culture built around getting the theory right and a lot of what I now see as the ladies' version of verbal humiliation/hazing rituals that one goes through to become accepted as a true feminist online. It involves a lot of reading "feminist 101" until you understand the clique's language and beliefs well enough to do some combination of:<BR/><BR/>1) Not saying anything that defies their understanding of the theory<BR/><BR/>and/or<BR/><BR/>2) Holding your ground well enough that they simply cannot drive you off.Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06846032433424879965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-83894373778654009122009-02-09T21:31:00.000-08:002009-02-09T21:31:00.000-08:00T,Unfortunately I don't. There were a bunch she n...T,<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately I don't. There were a bunch she never posted. I've started responding to stuff random people say at 9-2 on Ren's blog, so if you want to see a representation of my responses, its there. Some of the ones she deleted, some were less so. I will probably try to write a fairly scathing summary of this whole bullshit fairly soon. <BR/><BR/>I honestly think what really got her into an uproar, is that I challenged her definition of feminism. She obviously doesn't like men in general, doesn't like doms, and definitely doesn't like people who challenge her bullshit assertions, and I seem to fit in all 3. That, and if you haven't noticed, I can have a fairly combative style sometimes. I used to spend a lot of time arguing politics online and compared to that, what I say here is like kisses from a butterfly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-88935393193862644172009-02-09T18:03:00.000-08:002009-02-09T18:03:00.000-08:00Nik,Do you have copies of the posts of yours that ...Nik,<BR/><BR/>Do you have copies of the posts of yours that sent ND into such a lather? I'm wondering just what it is you said that has her convinced you're a violent baboon. I mean, I gather she thinks all male tops are, but I don't think I've *ever* seen her quite this hostile, and I'm fascinated. Do you have copies of the posts she zapped?<BR/><BR/>Or is it just a reaction to the word "Master?"<BR/><BR/>My boy's called me that, too. Heh.Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06846032433424879965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-81231989512621313252009-02-09T12:33:00.000-08:002009-02-09T12:33:00.000-08:00FWIW, ND, I'm a female feminist submissive who wou...FWIW, ND, I'm a female feminist submissive who would love to own kink.com vids, but am too poor to spend money on porn. (Woe is the college student.) Why? Because I like to pretend I'm the woman in the video! It's called identifying with the protagonist, to use literary terminology. Not that difficult of a concept to understand.Zulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08997834583399959391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-54357590179822245792009-02-08T21:19:00.000-08:002009-02-08T21:19:00.000-08:00"I asked in my post what would draw a woman to the..."I asked in my post what would draw a woman to the kind of stuff I saw on that site, and I'd really like to know. "<BR/><BR/>Meta tried to explain it and you blew her off. I tried to explain it as well, and you were nothing but a complete ass.<BR/><BR/>"But anyway, my extreme suspicion is reserved for dominant men. "<BR/><BR/>Of course...because men are inherently evil. Or something.<BR/><BR/>"Oh, and to clarify, the "kill yourself" bit (which was rhetorical and a bit over the top on purpose) was not aimed at submissive women. It was aimed at men who get off on seeing women tortured."<BR/><BR/>Other people have responded to this more eloquently, but it should be pretty obvious that telling the people who submissive women love to kill themselves IS aimed at submissive women.<BR/><BR/>"I'm not a college freshman in a Women's Studies class. I'm a 31-year-old PhD candidate, and I'm frankly tired of being dismissed as a naive kid and marginalized with this "women's studies" shit."<BR/><BR/>Then grow up, and start acting like it. If you are going to treat Meta, and others, as you have then treating you like a kid is treating you nicely. You deserve words a lot harsher than some slight marginalization.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-85053202770746311992009-02-08T17:15:00.000-08:002009-02-08T17:15:00.000-08:00N-D, others have already said similar things but w...N-D, others have already said similar things but what you said hit a nerve. <BR/><BR/>My partner is a Dom male who owns a fairly large collection of Kink.com pornography. He suffers from depression, I live in fear that the disease that both he and I suffer from will take him from me. So don't you fucking dare say we are on the same side, you want the most important person in my life to die of a disease that they have suffered from for most of there life, a disease which makes their life hell. Why, because his entertainment doesn't fit your politics? <BR/><BR/>DON'T YOU DARE CLAIM YOU CARE FOR ME. <BR/><BR/>WE ARE NOT ON THE SAME SIDE<BR/><BR/>Don't fucking bother.Cheshirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16948789440622799339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-48677454019772970852009-02-08T15:19:00.000-08:002009-02-08T15:19:00.000-08:00I'm going to de-lurk briefly for this:"S'a good th...I'm going to de-lurk briefly for this:<BR/><BR/>"S'a good thing I'm pregnant, because it means I just don't have the energy to throttle people over teh intarwebs."<BR/><BR/>Congrats and good luck!EthylBenzenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08809013705471938666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-4851544619532864652009-02-08T13:34:00.000-08:002009-02-08T13:34:00.000-08:00Not disagreeing, even.Not disagreeing, even.Dw3t-Hthrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584245136407694660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-12161814519803801842009-02-08T12:42:00.000-08:002009-02-08T12:42:00.000-08:00Oh yeah, I know you're just disagreeing. I just h...Oh yeah, I know you're just disagreeing. I just have this, y'know, hammer ....Dw3t-Hthrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584245136407694660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-4118820563334757752009-02-08T12:40:00.000-08:002009-02-08T12:40:00.000-08:00I'm not disagreeing at all, Kiya. I'm just snarkin...I'm not disagreeing at all, Kiya. I'm just snarking.<BR/><BR/>"We didn't mean you" is an old defense with these people, too.<BR/><BR/>They "don't mean me" either, despite that I've enjoyed the very porn ND thinks is grounds for suicide. (As I've said here and at her place, I don't really do so any more, because I've got some questions about how they do things.)<BR/><BR/>But it's always "I didn't mean you."Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06846032433424879965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-60491083672130018652009-02-08T12:32:00.000-08:002009-02-08T12:32:00.000-08:00S'a good thing I'm pregnant, because it means I ju...S'a good thing I'm pregnant, because it means I just don't have the energy to throttle people over teh intarwebs.<BR/><BR/>I still think she makes it clear that I shouldn't exist -- with the rhetoric about how my sexuality is essentially rooted in shame and shamefulness, how it's about having an excuse to be sexual when I'm not culturally "allowed", so that if the culture were less broken about female sexuality I'd vanish in a puff of theory.<BR/><BR/>That she also has more <I>overtly</I> condemnatory language directed towards my liege does not change the steady grinding undermining paternalistic contempt aimed at women like me, cloaked though it may be in unwanted pity. The sicky-sweet faux concern does not adequately mask the Bad Women And Their Horrible Enablers core.Dw3t-Hthrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584245136407694660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-80945175055131932582009-02-08T12:20:00.000-08:002009-02-08T12:20:00.000-08:00"Primarily because everything you say makes it ver..."Primarily because everything you say makes it very, very clear to me that you think I shouldn't exist."<BR/><BR/>Oh, she doesn't think you shouldn't exist, Kiya.<BR/><BR/>She just thinks your liege is a violent asshole.<BR/><BR/>It's not <I>you</I>. It's just <I>who you love</I>.<BR/><BR/>Now doesn't that make you feel so much better about this whole thing?Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06846032433424879965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-26965521807872001552009-02-08T12:12:00.000-08:002009-02-08T12:12:00.000-08:00ND, I don't know you're on my side.Primarily becau...ND, I don't know you're on my side.<BR/><BR/>Primarily because everything you say makes it very, very clear to me that you think I shouldn't exist.<BR/><BR/>Your "understandings" of submissive women are condescending and factually inaccurate, and that's the nicest thing I can say about your position.Dw3t-Hthrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584245136407694660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-72394048877752875002009-02-08T10:28:00.000-08:002009-02-08T10:28:00.000-08:00I think that the idea that we - women into BDSM, w...I think that the idea that we - women into BDSM, women like myself, a feminist submissve - haven't noticed that it may be problematic is deeply patronising. Admittedly I'm bi so I could just sub to women but I DON'T WANT TO!!!!<BR/><BR/>I'm in a relationship with a Dom man - and yes I find the comment "oh I don't have a problem with *you* but I think your partner should just off and kill himself" talking about someone I happen to love excuse me! It's condescending in the extreme to suggest that I haven't thought - at length - about the problematic issues involved. <BR/><BR/>Feminist anti-BDSM arguments had me tied in (internal) knots for years because I really believed that my sexual desires were "wrong" - I didn't get into BDSM until I was 34 years old and that was one of the biggest reasons, I hated my kinky fantasies and that side of myself. I'm much happier, more comfortable and confident in myself since I have accepted that aspect of my personality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-8249453992592321932009-02-08T08:40:00.000-08:002009-02-08T08:40:00.000-08:00and how many times can one do a non-feminist act, ...and how many times can one do a non-feminist act, or how many non-feminist acts can one do, before one can't call herself a feminist anymore?<BR/><BR/>can I do seventeen feminist acts in one day, and one non-feminist one, and still call myself a feminist? what if that one non-feminist act involves me doing something submissively kinky? does that knock me out of the box even if the seventeen feminist acts I did were really really feminist?antiprincesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06675693687192822141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-39148681079641056162009-02-08T08:37:00.000-08:002009-02-08T08:37:00.000-08:00I've said on several occasions before this one tha...<I>I've said on several occasions before this one that I think people too often make the assumption that because they're feminists everything they do is a feminist act.</I><BR/><BR/>well, sure - but who is the final arbiter of what is/ain't a feminist act, at the end of the day?<BR/><BR/>how do you know which acts are feminist and which aren't?antiprincesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06675693687192822141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-25738171811350002572009-02-08T07:51:00.000-08:002009-02-08T07:51:00.000-08:00Then we're in agreement there, ND.Then we're in agreement there, ND.Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06846032433424879965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-760704342202547222.post-55687358990597221702009-02-08T07:34:00.000-08:002009-02-08T07:34:00.000-08:00I'm not parroting anyone, Trinity. I've said on se...I'm not parroting anyone, Trinity. I've said on several occasions before this one that I think people too often make the assumption that because they're feminists everything they do is a feminist act.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com